Searching for a Phantom Uncle in Depression Era Records 1


There’s a mystery man in my family’s past and I aim to find out more about him.


His name is Mathew Donar, my mother’s younger brother. He was only 21 years old when he died in 1936, almost 20 years before I was born. There’s nary a hint about Uncle Matt’s brief life on this earth save for the 1920 census where he’s listed as a 5 year old. My mother, long gone, rarely spoke of him. But, he did exist and I will find out about him—though it will probably require the help of the U.S. government to do it—specifically, federal records from the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC).


photo courtesy of CCC



Here’s the backstory:


In the early months of 1929 my grandparents, Peter and Mary Agnes Donar, were living at 1131 Oakdale Avenue on the north side of Chicago. Peter, 62, was working downtown as a baggage agent with the Parkway Hotel and his wife, Mary Agnes, 57, as seen so often on the census, was “keeping house.”


Most of their five children had reached adulthood. Jack, 27, was married and out of the house; Helen, 24, was preparing for her July wedding; George, 20, was a sailor in the U.S. Navy; and Dorothy, my mother, was just starting a modeling career with Saks Fifth Avenue. The youngest, Matt, 14, was probably still in school.


It was the Prohibition era, the age of flappers. In Chicago, Eliot Ness and his G-men were going after gangsters and bootleggers like Al Capone. It was a heady, exciting, often violent time. But for the nation, the end of the ‘20s also brought The Crash—The Great Depression—two terms which signified one thing to America—economic collapse—but something else as well to the Donars: crushing changes to family dynamics that would forever change their futures.


In May of that year, the Donar’s eldest son Jack, 27, died quite unexpectedly from nephritis, a kidney disease, leaving behind a wife and his family of origin. His parents were heartbroken. But the sorrow was not over for the Donar family. In early October, just weeks before Black Tuesday, Jack’s father, also died suddenly of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart. There’s a gravestone for Jack up at All Saints Cemetery, simply carved with the birth and death dates delineating his brief life. Not so, for his father, Peter. His grave is unmarked—no money for something as frivolous as a tombstone in 1929.


These losses, combined with a son away in the Navy and a newly married daughter left only Mary Agnes; her daughter Dorothy, 18; and son Matt, 14; at home. How would they ever get by? Who would support the remaining family members, particularly during such hard times? The answer, for now, is unclear.


Fast forward though, about seven years. The Depression was still on, but by then, Dorothy had been married for over a year and was fully eight months pregnant, ready to deliver her first child. Only one Donar sibling remained at home with my grandmother. Which brings me to Matt, what little I know of him, and just how I intend to learn more.


Training workers in the trades and workplace safety was a big part of the CCC. (photo courtesy of CCC)

In 1936, Franklin Roosevelt was commander-in-chief charged with uplifting the country’s economy and collective morale during a financial crisis that left no one untouched. His New Deal offered a variety of programs to Americans in the form of recovery, reform and relief. It’s believed Uncle Matt took part in FDR’s relief program through the Civil Conservation Corps.


I learned about his possible association with the CCC from Barbara Schmitt, my cousin’s wife in California whom I’ve renewed contact with recently. When Matt’s name came up, she casually mentioned that he may have worked for the Civilian Conservation Corps. Later she mailed me some documents she had that related to various family members and I added them to my growing collection of family history memorabilia.


Upon perusing them I found an undertaker’s receipt made out to my grandmother showing “expenses from California” for dates just prior to the Matt’s burial in another unmarked grave, close to his father and brother in Illinois.


While the statement doesn’t mention Matt by name, clearly the bill had to be for Matt’s funeral services. Why else would my grandmother be billed for a funeral at the time she’d lost this son? This clue, coupled with the comment from my cousin stating Matt had been with the CCC leads the detective in me to surmise that Uncle Matt most probably was one of those young men in the 1930s who took up Uncle Sam’s offer for food, lodging and a modest paycheck to help the folks back home.


According to research I’ve done thus far here’s what I know about the CCC:


The average enrollee was about 18 years old (Matt was 20); who had unemployed parents (like my widowed grandmother); and had not completed high school. (Matt, only 14 when his Dad died and the Depression began, was the only “man” in the house. It’s speculation of course, but I wonder if he may have dropped out of school after his dad’s death to seek whatever odd jobs he could find to earn what he could for the family).


The primary goal of the CCC was to bring poor, unemployed young men (like Matt) out of urban centers (like Chicago) to improve their health, boost their morale and contribute to their families’ financial well-being (which Matt’s family so desperately needed). The secondary goal of the CCC was to improve the infrastructure and conservation of America’s parks and forests.


All of these factors would certainly have qualified him for acceptance into the Corps.


Young men like Matt were put to work across the land on state and federal projects building roads, bridges, and nature trails; planting trees; developing park buildings; and working on flood control projects. More than 3 million of them were employed in the program between 1933 and 1942 by the time the program ended.


They lived and labored in camps nationwide and were rewarded with a dollar a day and “three hots and a cot” (bed and board). In California alone, 168 camps employed over 33,600 men over the course of the program. Of the $30 per month each man earned, $25 was sent directly home by the federal government to the workers’ families as a form of financial support. (In today’s economy that would amount to about $416 that was sent back home and $83 that remained in the workers’ pockets for their own personal expenses.) The CCC camps were regimented, disciplined and ideal training grounds for those who would go on several years later to serve in World War II.


As fate would have it though, Matt didn’t live long enough to be a part of that history. Family lore has it that he died of a burst appendix, probably while he was working at a CCC camp in California, far from his native Chicago.


So how can I verify that Uncle Matt was a CCC worker in the 1930s? Where do I go from here? A couple of options:


Aside from Googling “Civilian Conservation Corps” for general background information and looking it up in a couple of history books I have on my genealogy bookshelves, there’s a video about the CCC produced by PBS that I hope to pick up at a local library or view online. I’ll also be perusing some books on the subject available through online booksellers.


Most valuable though will probably be the leads I obtained through a webinar I caught earlier this week that was devoted to the topic of CCC records and how to obtain them. It was sponsored by the Friends of the National Archives, Southeast Region, and was presented by NARA archivist Maureen Hill. (


Her webinar handout highlights three NARA record groups that could prove useful to people like me who are researching the Civilian Conservation Corps:


  • CCC Work Projects with Federal Agencies (Forest Service, National Park Service, Tennessee Valley Authority, etc.) where CCC work was completed. Records they have include inspection reports, camp histories, work agreements, disability claims, maps and project files. They can be ordered from the NARA regional facility closest to where the work camp was located (
  • CCC Record Group 35 These records include a variety of administrative documents related to the functioning of the camps: inspection reports, accident reports, general correspondence, etc. This record group is located at NARA’s facility in College Park, MD. Additional information on those records can be obtained by contacting
  • CCC Enrollee Records located at the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO. These records may prove to be the most valuable of all to family historians as they contain individuals’ applications, enrollee cards, medical histories, cumulative records, and records of classes each worker completed in safety and the building trades. It’s this record set where I’m hoping to find details on the final days of my Uncle Matt’s life.


Based on information I’ve obtained thus far—including an undertakers bill, a cemetery record, and yes, family lore—I’m thinking my uncle probably did work at a California CCC camp before he died and his body was shipped home to his widowed mother in Chicago for burial near his father and brother.


Though I still don’t have much hard data on the life of my Uncle Matt, because of what I’ve researched thus far, I know much more about his family’s circumstances and the times they lived in. I’m hoping that through further research of CCC records—perhaps a personnel file or a report from a camp he may have worked at—I’ll be able to learn a bit more about this phantom uncle who, until this point, as been a mystery to all of his fellow family members who’ve descended from the Donar line.


If you have an ancestor who may have worked for the Civil Conservation Corps during the Great Depression, you too, may be able to utilize the tips above to find out more about his life—a life that was, undoubtedly, exceedingly difficult for him and other everyday Americans like those in the Donar family in the early part of the last century.


For more information on the history of the CCC, consider checking out the following books or visiting the websites below.




[amazon_link id=”0195392418″ target=”_blank” container=”” container_class=”” ]Nature’s New Deal: The Civilian Conservation Corps[/amazon_link] by Neil M. Maher


[amazon_link id=”1935778188″ target=”_blank” container=”” container_class=”” ]Our Mark on this Land[/amazon_link] by Ren and Helen Davis


[amazon_link id=”0933126115″ target=”_blank” container=”” container_class=”” ]The Tree Army[/amazon_link] by Stan Cohen


[amazon_link id=”0874220734″ target=”_blank” container=”” container_class=”” ]In the Shadow of the Mountain[/amazon_link] by Edwin G. Hill




Civilian Conservation Corps Legacy


The Civilian Conservation Corps (The American Experience)


CCC: US History



Pat Biallas is the author of Pursuing the Past, a monthly column in The In-Depth Genealogist about navigating different media outlets to learn about the past. She can be found blogging at Genea Journeys.

© 2012 Patricia Desmond Biallas



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  • Ralph Poore

    In your CCC research, start by writing the National Archives and Records Administration, National Personnel Records Center, Civilian Personnel Records, 111 Winnebago Street, St. Louis, MO 63118. In your letter, explain that you are interested in getting copies of the records of service with the CCC for your ancestor. Provide his name, Social Security Number, and birth and death dates. Also list the Federal Employing Agency, in this case, the CCC. If you know it, include the CCCs company number and the federal or state agency the camp was assigned to. Initials, such as F for Forest Service or SP for State Parks, designated the agencies. If you know the time period your ancestor served, include that as well.

    You also need to provide proof of death.

    You can expect to receive your ancestors Application for Enrollment that lists a home address, place and date of birth, education, community activities, last job held, work experience, Record of Service in the Civilian Conservation Corps, CCC work record, health exam, and discharge information. In my Dads case, these records indicated that he had served in more than one CCC camp, which I hadn’t known before.

    You can request a search for photographs by e-mail at Provide the same information as in your request for records. Be sure to include your mailing address because a report of the results of the search, which takes two to four weeks, is by regular mail.

    You can find out about life at your ancestor’s camp, although not necessarily specific information about your ancestor, by requesting the CCC camp inspection records for your ancestors particular camp. To get these records, write to the National Archives at College Park, 8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, MD 20740-6001. Provide the same information on your ancestor as in the other record requests.

    What you will receive from the National Archives are forms for ordering copies of the files they find. These forms include a brief description of what is in the files, the number of pages, and an estimate of the cost of copies. You pay the estimate, but you are billed for the difference if the cost is greater. A word of warning, these estimates are notoriously bad. In my case I received an estimated total of $25. The final bill totaled about twice that.

    These inspection reports include camp commanders reports of the activities of the young men, including work and recreation. Of particular interest to me were the mess halls daily menus that told me my Dad got hearty meals three times a day. I also learned that the camp inspector found bed bugs in the bunks and ordered them cleaned.

    To learn more about the history of the CCC program, an excellent Internet source is the online publication by John C. Paige, The Civilian Conservation Corps and the National Park Service, 1933-1942: An Administrative History, National Park Service, Department of the Interior, 1985. It is located online

    Finally, I’d be careful about looking at CCC service through rose-colored glasses, as most people do. There are cases of poor or abusive treatment. In one instance, a train load of boys rebelled at being shipped from their homes on the East Coast to CCC camps in the Far West.